Well Done Morrissey - N.M.E, Goodbye & Good Riddance!

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Well Done Morrissey - N.M.E, Goodbye & Good Riddance!

Postby Mark Boyle » Thu Nov 29, 2007 21:52

For those of you not in the know, Morrissey - after generously giving the NME until 12pm today to issue an apology - has issued a writ against both the music "newspaper" and its editor for defamation over the interview he did with them, which was a rather clumsy attempt by all accounts to rake up the coals of the "Is Morrissey A Nazi" rubbish a decade or so back when the "Your Arsenal" album came out, which when it did not go according to plan, was subject to a little journalistic "creative interpretation"...

After their disasterous "Get God Save The Queen To Number 1!" fiasco, the NME the very next week got all precious about the "Love Music - Hate Racism" campaign in conjunction with the usual suspects: a rather curious affair considering such events are usually held in the springtime to coincide with elections, less curious when one considers the crisis state of both the NME and the Socialist Workers Party, er I mean the Anti-Nazi League, just now....and the fact the NME was desperate to take everyone's minds off the fact they'd staked their remaining credibility to have any influence left on their "Get The Sex Pistols To No.1." stunt.

Ah...but that sort of thing needs something to get "the kids" to focus. And what better than a "big racist pop star outrage!" headline? Even if he is considered about as contemporary as Muffin The Mule these days.

Except this time it has backfired. And at long last this shower of little s**ts are going to be pay for it big time.

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Postby Mr Dogstand » Thu Nov 29, 2007 22:01

We all have 30 years worth of good reason for cheering Mr Mozza's litigation against the....erm..can I say c*nts?
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Postby steve adams » Thu Nov 29, 2007 22:03

i have looked at the nme, for the past few weeks
since someone on here, said it was still going,
it reminds me of smash hits
except smash hits was entertaining
the amazing thing though about the nme
is NO CARDIACS INTERVIEW /REVIEW/ ANYTHING :roll: :evil:
get well soon tim smith !!!

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Postby Greyhound » Fri Nov 30, 2007 05:22

I want some "f*CK THE NME!" badges. I'll gladly wear them l'il fookerz.

Gone are the dayz when I used to say "oh, but they have a really good gig guide!".

NO! It's rot!

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Postby higgy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:24

I never realised there was any association between the NME and the SWP. Doesn't seem likely somehow.
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Postby Ady » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:31

Fair Play to morrisey.....i used to be a bit of a smiths fan as a Teenager......not to keen on his solo stuff though.
i dont know whats happened with NME, i'm sure many years ago it wasn't that bad,and for some reason,like steve's said,its gone all smashy hit's.....and the music it features these days is pretty shite.

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Postby Batesy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:23

I liked NME back in the day - growing up in the shires John Peel, Sounds, Melody Maker and NME were a lifeline. The first three are dead now but the NME seems to stagger on in a world that doesn't need or want it. It's kind of sad though - I used to get a real thrill each Wednesday when the weekly music press came out - it was genuinely a highlight of my week, but things have changed and there's just no place for weekly music mags.

And when they go picking fights on people like Morrissey by digging up a 15 year old argument that they entirely manufactured in the first place it's just openly desperate and embarrassing.

I’ll be interested to see where it goes. Moz doesn’t have a great track record when it comes to taking people to court but I think that’s usually because he doesn’t really have a case. Hopefully, this time will be different.

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Postby steve adams » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:40

Ady wrote:i dont know whats happened with NME, .

ady the music press in my view
started going down hill from about the early 1980s when
3 things happened

1)writers like gary bushell left sounds
for the sun
like him or hate him his writing influenced
writers at the nme melody maker etc,
(also for the same reason smash hits went down hill
when mark ellen (for it is he)left for q )
im amazed that the nme havent signed up
sean and marina for shed loads of money, as they do get you excited about bands,
like mr bushell did,

2) mtv started before you only had access
to pop groups via top of the pops, radio 1,
so stuff like bowie the sex pistols
were limited in their exposure
so the writers could build up myths and legends
regarding the groups
now days you have 24-7 music tv stations
which have de mystified the whole pop culture,
these bloody pop stars get every where

3)no generation gap
where before you could see
someone like bowie on top of the pops
and your parents would say
what the fvck was that
now days it seems to be
a one size fits all aproach
of fun for all the family
bland music for the masses
if you have access to it
i recomend life the radio station
this station is a oxymoron if there ever was one
also you have the pre beatles aproach
where every song is written by the same people :roll:
(much as i used to fancy cathy dennis, i hate her songs)
so this may explian why the writing is lacking passion,

im sure there are a million more reasons
:wink:
get well soon tim smith !!!

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Postby higgy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:29

Batesy wrote:I liked NME back in the day - growing up in the shires John Peel, Sounds, Melody Maker and NME were a lifeline. The first three are dead now but the NME seems to stagger on in a world that doesn't need or want it. It's kind of sad though - I used to get a real thrill each Wednesday when the weekly music press came out - it was genuinely a highlight of my week, but things have changed and there's just no place for weekly music mags.


I always hated the NME with a vengence. They seemed to champion stupidity and ugliness and to viciously dismiss everything I held close to my heart without reason. Just nasty.

It seemed to me they were all about style over substance.

Batesy wrote:And when they go picking fights on people like Morrissey by digging up a 15 year old argument that they entirely manufactured in the first place it's just openly desperate and embarrassing.


I never really got Morrissey either. The music or the man. I was a died-in-the-wool proggy-hippy type. Still am, I suppose.
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Postby Stoneage Dinosaurs » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:37

Good on ya Mozz!

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Postby Stoneage Dinosaurs » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:41

And as long as we've got extreme Islamic fundamentalist nutters like those in Sudan I don't think anyone is in a position to question or criticize the rights & wrongs of free political thought in the UK.

Especially when justified discussuions about how to control migration and achieve integration are called racist by the same Islamic fundamentalist nutters!

Islam needs to get itself out of the Middle Ages & join the modern world in the 21st century.

And when I buy a new teddy bear I'm going to call it Jesus!

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Postby brother abnego » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:59

...Moz front cover from last year:
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...you see, NME, the problem is this: when you flip-flop in this fashion, scurrilously cherry-picking lines from an interview and presenting them in isolation as front cover headlines, you are playing the same grotty game as the tabloids...people know this...it makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about from one minute to the next, and that you don't really believe what you say at any time, and this in turn makes people less inclined to take you seriously as a source of information..
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Postby steve adams » Fri Nov 30, 2007 13:12

oh i forgot to add the other
thing which ruined the nme
is when adrians records stopped advertising
because even though the nme
used to not really cover much music
you could always count on
adrians records in wickford to list most of the
new releases
in their adverts :wink: :)
get well soon tim smith !!!

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Postby Batesy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 13:36

higgy wrote:I always hated the NME with a vengence. They seemed to champion stupidity and ugliness and to viciously dismiss everything I held close to my heart without reason. Just nasty.

It seemed to me they were all about style over substance.


Maybe you were blessed with an analytical mind from early on! None of these things mattered to me when I was 14 - I didn't really develop my cynic muscle until my late teens. All media, popular or not, has an agenda and ideology but if you sift through the nonsense you can sometimes find something of real value.

I just flicked through my MP3 player and saw albums by Echo & The Bunnymen, Billy Bragg, The Wedding Present, The Smiths, Mercury Rev, Pavement, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, The Sundays, Jesus & Mary Chain and The House Of Love. I was pretty much introduced to all of these bands by the NME (along with night time Radio One).

I'm not fighting NME's corner here, I just feel that like Top of the Pops, it had it's time and place but the digital era has left it redundant. It comes up with tedious ugly stories like this Morrissey one occassionally to try and remind everyone that's it still here - and it's worked!

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Postby chippy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 13:39

I used to buy NME as well as other music rags because like it was said before coverage of music was limited, I mean I remember a front cover full double page article of ozric tentacles way back when which to me was amazing. Then what put me off was a story that 'pink floyd are has beens and we need to move on? WTF to ignore one of the greatest bands ever?? I was outraged.
A few months ago I was looking for a read and picked it up to see how it has changed and OMG it was dire, not even worth wiping my butt on. cover story about britney spears and pidgeon detectives and other shyte.

the only read thats worth your money to me is mojo but at a fiver its a little steep.
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