Cardiac Arrest Demo Cassette

[i love sarah]

On the discography section of Cardiacs wikipedia site, there is this mentioned as first:

Demo demo cassette (1978) (as Cardiac Arrest)

wiki is the least reliable source, so i ask you: Does this really exist or is it a creation of somebody´s imagination? What´s on it?

[The Bronx]

There is mention of a 7 song demo here, but no song names http://www.cardiacs.com/testimonials/te ... als-71-75/

[drterror666]

There is indeed a Cardiacs demo and I know that because I did the discography in Wiki. I also know what the tracks were on it, but I'm going to have to have a search about for them.

[i love sarah]

but do I understand it right that NO-ONE of you got to hear that demo?

I hope someday we can listen to it

[drterror666]

As far as I know, only a select few have heard that demo. I had a hunt around my old posts for more info, but I think the track listing got lost when the forum got updated. I remember that Bite 3/a was one of the tracks, but I think all the others have never been re-recorded anywhere, unless they were rejigged and renamed.

Can anyone else on the forum help? I know one person who can, but he may not be posting at the moment.

EDIT

I had another search and guess what I found...

1) When I See That Certain Look in Your Eye (Never heard this)

2) I Bit the Vicar (Never heard this, but sounds like it's connected to the next track)

3) Vic Bite 3a (became Bite 3/a)

4) Minnow Bandage (possibly became Hello Mr Minnow)

5) Pilf

6) Ants (possibly became An Ant)

4) Trade Mark (became My Trademark)

Would be great to hear it.

[abade]

Would be great to hear it.

I second that...

[i love sarah]

Thank you for the info. Pretty interesting. I somehow have a magical attraction to demos of any band

[drterror666]

You'll have fun trying to track that one down!

I also think demos are great, because they capture bands in their infancy when all those creative ideas were new. I find at times that when certain bands finally release recorded output, by the second album they're complete shite, because the album was recorded years after those intitial demo tracks and they've since tried to 'develop', i.e to be more commercial!

I say the second album, because demo tracks tend to find their way re-recorded onto the first one.

[ryan]

I think more because the first album is written over a period of years, the second often in a matter of months.
Generally speaking at least.

[Pheeel]

2) I Bit the Vicar (Never heard this, but sounds like it's connected to the next track)

Hehe. According to Mark Cawthra, this was Derek Tagg's sole contribution to the band in the very early days.

Pete Tagg, the drummer, was off to form The Trudy with his brother Derek and another friend from school, Ralph Cade. These last two had been up to this point the Cardiac-ettes, and Derek’s input was to shriek “I bit the vicar” in a piece of the same name. Delightful, I can promise you.

[The Bronx]

It sounds like no-one here has ever heard it then

[drterror666]

I think BSI has heard it, but I can't be sure.

[wilson]

Is the demo definitely from 1978?

I ask because the Cawthra quote mentions Pete Tagg was off to form The Trudy.

Tagg mentions elsewhere that he left (with Cade) around the time of Stonehenge 79.

As it was summer solstice this puts it all around June 1979.

The Demo and first single were recorded at Elephant, so is it more likely that the recordings took place in the same year?

[wilson]

I see Bite 3a is on Obvious Identity that was recorded in June 1979, so that's probably where my confusion arises.

So the demo defo 1978 then?

[wilson]

Obvious Identity recorded June 1980 not 1979.