schlep wrote:Mr Snard, I am amazed - I thought this was a band that was lyrical and yet, so mind-bogglingly COMPLEX and difficult, to my poor ear anyway, that you would at least be partly on board. Oh well. Objectively horrible. Thanks for admirable restraint, before chiming in.
Apologies, schlepster. I've been procrastinating like a fiend about something all day, and my recent posts have been a little schizophrenic across the board. "Objectively horrible" was way out of line; apparently somebody or other liked it well enough to put it on the record, QED.
FOR THOSE SO INCLINED to take in this stoner hipster nonsense, I will wax on :The new album is their Sing To God, I think. 100 minutes of everything but the kitchen sink being thrown at you. It's meant to be an observance of KD's 10th year of existence, a summing up, incorporating the more metalloid approach of early Kayo Dot, along with the more loosely structured later stuff of Blue Lambency and Coyote.
Kayo Dot, judging by this thread, is obviously a band with a following and a back catalog, and the problem for me is those early links are all dead. Had I heard some of them and could sample a variety of their music, I'm sure that even if I didn't fall in love with them, I'd be "on board" with at least a couple tunes enough to see where y'all are coming from. As it is, I've only heard the two -- the first one you linked which I didn't like, but for other reasons. It was perfectly melodic (in fact, it gets stuck in my head), but I thought it was a little blase and Pink Floydish. The second one -- and this is not a perjorative -- is a more-or-less free noise jam.
A word about complexity: There's musical complexity and there's sonic complexity. Sonic complexity I've never been terribly interested in. Balls-out sonic complexity is Merzbow and Japanoise. In fact, the most sonically complex sound is white noise -- all the different possible waveforms happening at once. But the perceptual takeaway is ... white noise. Static. As our resident noise music fan Mr. Minnow will no doubt tell you, the most interesting noise is not necessarily the most sonically complex. Chaos jams have never been my plug of earwax.
Musical complexity is an entirely different matter. When you characterized the Arctopus as "non-musical," I had to demur because I think they're an extremely musical band, in the sense that all their notes are planned out in a unitary scheme. All the linear patterns (let's not call them melodies), rhythms, chords and dissonances create expectations in the mind which are then relentlessly sucker-punched as the band changes direction. And I love to be sucker-punched. That's my main aesthetic. It's why I love constantly changing time sigs. And that tune Thief didn't sucker-punch me. It did pretty much what I was expecting all the way through.
Toby Driver mostly plays bass (and sings) in this incarnation, the new guitarist is Ron Varod, he fills a big space on this album.
Amazing drummer, there are drum patterns here that I haven't heard before!
Since I was so churlish, shlep, I tell you what I'll do. Later on I'll visit their page and listen to a couple more tunes so at least I'll have a more fair representation of what they're about.