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Postby Chinners » Fri Mar 02, 2007 18:34

Indeed, head roadie that went off to work with Coldplay I believe
I saw a cluster of DOGS

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Postby schlep » Fri Mar 02, 2007 18:42

I think he's identified as 'Shopgirl' on Mare's Nest vid, and elsewhere -?
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I meant to say to you today
A day goes by I try thats why
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Postby Ally Craig » Fri Mar 02, 2007 19:01

Chinners wrote:Indeed, head roadie that went off to work with Coldplay I believe


Not so much "sorely" missed as... BETRAYAL!!!

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Postby Gubbins » Sat Mar 03, 2007 04:06

Sarah's brother? Or did he leave due to scandal involving Tim stealing her saxyness from him?

I'm sure there's answers in this here Maresnest!

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Postby Sterbus » Thu Mar 22, 2007 15:34

Ok, I definitely can't stand it no more, I have to say this.
Zappa did it in the past (wit very poor results)
but Porcupine Tree also did it WITH VERY VERY GOOD RESULTS.

What's the matter?

REPLACING THE ORIGINAL PROGRAMMED DRUMS WITH TRUE DRUMS.

(without changing nothing, no new fills, no new nothing, just exactly the same parts that are already there. I think the album will sound deeper and tougher. Porcupine Tree replaced the drums of "the sky moves sideways" and the difference is very clear)

I know someone would call this blasfemy, I'm just a newbie, is only three months that I bought ALL Cardiacs ALBUMS and that I'm only listening to them since.
I just wonder how it could sound with real drums, like we hear live. What do yu think?
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Postby Gubbins » Thu Mar 22, 2007 15:40

...They are real drums...


Aren't they?

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Postby Ally Craig » Thu Mar 22, 2007 16:10

It's odd production, I'll give you that, but I think they're real drums. To be honest, I reckon if you turn up the bass a little on the stereo, it does all it needs for the sound.

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Postby Batesy » Thu Mar 22, 2007 16:29

I think the drums are programmed on Sing To God but they're real everywhere else. I think.

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Postby Sterbus » Fri Mar 23, 2007 13:30

If you listen carefully, every snare, kick, and cymbals sound exactly the same for every banging.
this is impossible for every drummer, especially for a band like cardiacs, with fills galore and lot of tempo-changes.
It's a matter of dynamics, probably every bit of drums got all the same waveform.
Anyway, programming drums in a way so real it's anyway a work of genius, often programmed drums are soon easy to reckon.
About sing to god I don't konw, maybe some of the songs, but noy all.
Dirty boy surely not...

someone out there knows the truth?
:roll:

BUT I REPEAT, I LOVE THAT ALBUM, IS THE FIRST I HEARD AND THAT'S HOW I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE BEST BAND IN THE WORLD.
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Postby Ady » Fri Mar 23, 2007 13:55

hi there sturbus-i was told that alot of sing was recorded just by tim.
liking your band sweeper by the way. :D

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Postby Clean Cat » Fri Mar 23, 2007 14:16

i swear it´s a drum machine! you´re right, really every bang sounds the same...Funnily i thought when i heard this album for the first time (1989...) : "it´s a drum machine" - then after several listenings i started to believe they were real drums. And so for the next 15 years i thought it was Dominic playing - until someone said it´s a drum machine. ..but still a brilliant album it is!
- and for sing to god, this must be real drums, the only drummachine suspicious track would be fiery gun hand...

And now i´ll never use the word `drum machine´again !

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Postby Clean Cat » Fri Mar 23, 2007 14:19

Ady wrote:i was told that alot of sing was recorded just by tim.


what? really??

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Postby frostbyte » Fri Mar 23, 2007 19:55

there is such a thing called midi triggering, for those uncomfortable with drummachines , it would mean that the tracks were really drummed by a real drummer, but the sounds triggered sample sounds to make them sound better.

so everyone happy now?
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Postby Sterbus » Fri Mar 23, 2007 23:39

uhm... :roll:
I don't know if this is the case... even if I got the same impression with almost all the albums, maybe Tim used this triggering everytime?
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Postby dogsetc. » Fri Mar 23, 2007 23:46

frostbyte wrote:there is such a thing called midi triggering, for those uncomfortable with drummachines , it would mean that the tracks were really drummed by a real drummer, but the sounds triggered sample sounds to make them sound better.


:idea: Is that like the equivalent of a typewriter and handwriting.:wink: