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Postby snowman » Fri Jul 11, 2008 17:11

actually, yeh, i'm sure production had an influence on my proclamation.

but it's also my 'that's interesting - i've never heard anything like that musically before' guage - which is red hot following a listen to guns, and which glows a warm orange after on land and in the sea.

that said, i can't get mare's nest out of my head at the moment - it's fab :D

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Postby brother abnego » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:35

...in the spirit of 'keeping things ticking over', here's a review of Guns from the September 1999 issue of Mojo:
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Guns is still my fave Cardiacs album...

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Postby snowman » Sun Aug 31, 2008 16:07

tip top! nicely perceptive writing - not often found in music journalism.

off-topic, i'll always have a soft spot for david quantick's writing.

back on topic, why oh why haven't mojo or word magazine or some such ever done a feature on cardiacs?

or have they?

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Postby funex » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:30

You know how Guns is loaded full of references to Night Of The Hunter (which I've bought on DVD and still not got round to watching...)

Listen to Fantomas' "Night Of The Hunter (remix)" from The Directors Cut. It sounds very Guns-ish, to my ears and brain. Wonder if that was intentional.

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Postby montoid » Thu Sep 25, 2008 14:16

Godspeed You Black Emperor :)

Saw them in a church-like venue somewhere, seven or eight years ago. They were supported by Sigur Ros. (who were better)

Didn't come onstage till gone eleven and then half of them sat on the stage whilst they played. Lazy greboes!

Long songs but o.k., spose :roll:

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Postby funex » Thu Sep 25, 2008 14:28

Wrong thread, much?
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Postby montoid » Thu Sep 25, 2008 14:35

kinda, see reviews above

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Re: Guns

Postby schlep » Thu May 28, 2009 13:43

The middle (eight?) section of Ain't He Messy Though,
"Roll them on, I don't know
Don't try to understand them
Brand them, brand them in the eye"

Just that little bit, contains a fuckload of soul creakingly beautiful music, in that way that Cardiacs music does, you think you know all about it, but then one day it sneaks up on you and gives you a big kiss.
Do you know what I mean to say
I meant to say to you today
A day goes by I try thats why
I try to speak to you today

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Re: Guns

Postby Dino64 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 13:32

Didn't "get" Guns for ages and ages, then all of a sudden it just clicked (y'know, the way Cardiacs albums always seem to), now I can't stop playing the bloody thing.

Weird that I had it for years and never took any real notice of the poor thing, and then there it is with a huge grin over it's face saying "I have you now!"

Keep going back to Wind and Rains is Cold, Cry Wet Smile Dry (love the "chorus" on that song, not sure that is a chorus though :?: ) and Will Bleed Amen and the outro just reminds me of a fast Beatles progression for some reason. I love 'em all though. 'Twas ever thus! :mrgreen:

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Re: Guns

Postby Sterbus » Mon Mar 07, 2011 14:49

anything anyplace anywhere for no reason at all
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Re: Guns

Postby Dino64 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 15:13

Yeah Sterbus, that's not too far away from it. The Beatles were so good at writing these amazing melodies and skewing them slightly, especially in later years. I loved that about them, still do.

I think the end progression on 'Will Bleed Amen' is such a great one that it's been used many times by many bands/artists etc that have come before and since. It's one of those music "somethings" that make folks feel all churny and warm, not to say rather aroused! Works everytime. I'm not a songwriter, I'm just a drummer, but it's one of those immediately recognisable progressions that is just great to play and smile through.

Not saying that Tim wasn't being original with that song part, but to a certain extent musicians are magpies, and if something sounds good by someone else, variations on that theme are almost certainly re-jigged and used.
Plus, I hear so many disperate influences in Tim's writing that his take on them comes out sounding like him, whether on his own, with Cardiacs, or others he's shared ideas with. Just part of his genius I guess.

Also, I'd forgotten what a great song 'I Want to Tell You' is. Thanks for that reminder monsieur!